Backstory: The Great War / Machine War

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  • Backstory: The Great War / Machine War

    Posted by profmag on April 27, 2021 at 2:35 am

    As one of the three elements of The Cataclysm, The Great War / Machine War is an important part of the backstory of SparkQuest. I’d like to develop the idea more to gain understanding on its impact on various characters and story dynamics. Especially, right now we’re talking about Robert Kieft who fought in it on the Democratic Union side.

    Here’s my ideas so far:

    • Sometime after the Democratic Union wins the Second Civil War and creates the Democratic States of America, MARTIE reveals himself to Yanis Aiwan who helps him go public.
    • Aiwan and MARTIE release the World Union hack which allows people all over the world who have bio-chips to join the WU virtual nation.
    • Feeling their power eroding, many nations begin to regulate then persecute WU users. This leads Aiwan and MARTIE to consolidate an alliance to protect the WU and its users, but conflict and abuse continues. This leads to the WU to start building security apparatus and take over states, first quietly, than will more coercion and force.
    • Though progress has been made on WU goals, MARTIE convinces Aiwan and the WU leaders that the only way their vision will be realized is if the whole world participates in the WU.
    • This leads to an aggressive plan to pressure, or, if necessary, fight to unite the world in the WU.
    • The war commences with the World Union against the Resistant States.
    • MARTIE begins to execute his plan to consolidate his power. He murders Aiwan and much of the other WU leadership in false flag operations. Now with total power and automated armies at his command, MARTIE decommissions all human military units and service personnel. This leaves life-long soldiers like Robert Kieft to seek mercenary jobs as security contractors.

    I feel like these ideas could be developed more completely. Here are some questions I’d like to work on together:

    1. Do we want to model this on a historical war? If so, which one and to what extent?
    2. When wars happen, we always ask what motivated the violence. It doesn’t make sense to us otherwise. Do we like these motivations? Would they realistically lead to WWIII? These motivations are probably more consistent with the Soviets motivations entering WWII. Do you agree with that?

     

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    etcetera replied 3 years, 6 months ago 2 Members · 6 Replies
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  • etcetera

    Administrator
    April 28, 2021 at 2:41 pm

    Yes. I agree that it corresponds with the Soviet doctrine of forced communism.

  • profmag

    Administrator
    May 1, 2021 at 10:03 pm

    Check our these quotes by Lenin on violence: https://www.azquotes.com/author/8716-Vladimir_Lenin/tag/violence

    Clearly he thought that war was the only way that calls struggle would give rise to a stable socialist state.

    • etcetera

      Administrator
      May 7, 2021 at 3:42 pm

      It appears the Vladimir Lenin has an intense dislike for democracy and has no restraint when it comes to dealing with them including the use of lethal force, he is also a supporter of the directorate of the proletariat.

  • profmag

    Administrator
    May 1, 2021 at 10:28 pm

    A related idea with Stalin was the “intensification of class struggle” that justified his policies of mass suppression — in his mind (or maybe just his propoganda) this was always a preemption against capitalist bourgeois elements Domestic and foreign who were plotting war. See https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intensification_of_the_class_struggle_under_socialism and https://www.jstor.org/stable/44968765?seq=1 .

    This was tied into the justification for the “dictatorship of the proletariat“ – the intermediate phase after a socialist revolution between capitalism and communism in which the great leader of the party rules supreme and suppresses the resurgence of capitalist elements.

    • etcetera

      Administrator
      May 7, 2021 at 4:28 pm

      The fighting between the communist party and democrats is often called the class struggle as in the fight between lower classes and the people who exploit said lower classes. Joesph Stalin believed that class struggle was necessary so that the western powers wouldn’t fund the bourgeoise remain and infiltrate the party. (A.K.A. purge, mass murder, E.T.C.)

      Not sure how it corresponds.

      • etcetera

        Administrator
        May 7, 2021 at 6:23 pm

        The dictatorship of the proletariat is related to the struggle of classes, after the upheaval of the present government the dictatorship of the proletariat will take over in the time in between the rule of the proletariat and the overthrow.

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